Evan, I could not find us a good third. So I signed up to ref all three days to fill my time between playing pick-up, selling stuff, and rooting for all my StL and CoMO teams. I hope you do not feel abandoned.Are we all going in the Kurt Loader on Thursday night? Where are you all staying in Madison?
i hope to be taking the van. it has been tuned up and should be ready to go. Jen is coming with so we're staying in the van. ya'll suckas can find your own place to stay maximum sleeping capacity of the van has been met.
Trent,Are you bringing the Trent Tent?I'm not sure if you even have a tent but if you did it would surely be called the Trent Tent.I am also looking for a place to lay my head in Madison, so I thought I'd ask you guys. Hopefully your spooning skills are up there with your cuddling skills.Love forever,drew
We should go during the day on Thursday. I'd rather not stroll into Madison late at night and have to wake up early for the start of the tournament.We should also work on getting spare replacement parts for STL players (tubes, tires, wheels, misc. parts, etc).
i won't be able to leave until afternoon on thursday. Two days off work is enough for me. maybe 4 o'clock or so. That puts us up there before midnight.
I will be at lindenwood at 6:30 tonight. Show up if you want . From the people I've talked to we will have 6. Im going up there for sure. Wed night will still happen like normal. This is just a lil something extra.
im so there. way to go STL polo!!!
Polo tonight but where? I vote lindenwood but if everybody votes Maplewood, that's fine. I'm in. You guys missed some fun stuff last night.Ps. Evan, if you need a tire or tube lmk. I can bring em. Just lmk what size. I probably have one.
I vote for Maplewood. Polo 'til 10. Training. Swim a lap for every foot-down.
Everybody should play this eve. Sunday will be the 4th and most likely we won't be playing due to party plans.
I will play tonight for sure. I was going to come last night but ended up being busy till almost 8. I vote Maplewood also.
Lucky: Well shit... I thought you had rookienick and that was a done deal but whatever. Did you register a 'team' for stl? Or do I still need to do that?Trent: is there riding space in the van still? Or has that been filled also? Ben: I'm with Trent on the 4:00 thing. I might be able to leave a little earlier but 4 would be ideal for me. I have no idea where I'm staying, but I don't think anyone does. Including people outside of stl. Anchovy: thanks for the offer but i should have it under control. I broke down and did what you and toph were talking about and bought 2 adapters and 10 tubes so I should be ok for a little bit. But if you could bring that wheel that would awesome. And I'll bring $30And for tonight I vote maplewood just so we can play later. I'm real excited for not 'hot as hell' polo
hey fellas! Alex here! I'm back in Amerkuh for a bit, and I'd really like to come out this evenin'. Thing is, my polo bike's in horrible shape. Could somebody be so kind as to bring along a loaner or just share their primary bike?
I did not register a team. Rookie Nick will be playing with two dudes from MKE, the bastard.If you haven't registered yet, do so. The organizers are closing registration on July 9th, and will not be taking names or money day-of.If you don't have a place to stay squared away yet either, do that too. I'll be staying at the quiet, early-to-bed house. You party animals will want to look into camping or hotels. There is a map for those things on that website you all hate.
guess whos playing polo tonight....ill give you a clue.its Toph.
i'm out for tonight. I'm not committing to taking the van just yet. i'll let everyone know the plans ASAP. I do not plan on planning for housing. I wanna sleep in the van or in a tent. We could also cram 10 people in the same hotel room or something. we'll figure it out.-trent
i vote maplewood -Patrick
We need red ballz tonight.
Awesome polo! There's no other city where I'd rather polo.
the scabbie on my calf looks like a nike swoosh. awesome polo last night. the matchups were totally fun. thanks to Ross and Alex for coming out and making it happen. +2 what BEEF said. Get well soon King. Keep one hand training. you will perservere. STL will continue to be the best.
If the van ain't up to it and we're going in seperate cars, I'd like to get in the one(s) that are going up Thursday morning. I already took Thursday off.If the van is going, I call "shotgun".
^^^ Wow. The unwritten rules of shotgun have been written.Jake should get shotgun. The drive to Madison is his last chance to fully heal.He should be sitting comfortably in the front seat with a tall glass of milk.
could someone please videotape a few STL bike polo matches at Madison? especially the final matches! -Patrick
I will be going up on Thursday after work. I have room in my car.
can i get a role call of everyone who is planning on going to north americans and where yall are wanting to sleep? (i want austin to team up with you party machines.)stl better be there en force. -mo, atx
I'm going. I'm going to count on someone else to tell me where to sleep.
+1 to what Lee said. Though, I would like to stay somewhere with a shower.
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Time-outsThe referee reserves the right to stop game play for any reason. Time-outs will/can be called for the following reasons:A goal is scored. A time-out can be called for a mechanical, or water, etc.The ball goes out of play. The game will be paused until the ball can be retrieved. The defending team will then get possession of the ball and play will resume.Mechanical problem. The team with the mechanical problem may request a timeout only after they take possession of the ball.Serious injury.PenaltiesThese are the penalties available to the referee. Some infractions have predetermined penalties, such as ball-jointing in the offensive zone (see below). Otherwise, depending on the severity, the referee have the right to use any of these at any time in any order for the infraction in question.Tap-out: The referee may instruct a player to tap-out at either side of center court. If required, a player must hit the tap-out point with their mallet or they will still be considered "out." If a player does not physically touch the tap-out with their mallet, they may be asked to tap-out a second time. Tap-outs will always happen without stoppage.Ball turnover: The penalized team will return to their side. Once the team in possession of the ball crosses half-court, either with a player or the ball, play will resume.Warnings: For most infractions the referee will issue a verbal warning. Repeating the same behavior will result in a more severe penalty.30-second penalty: This penalty will follow a verbal warning or will be used to penalize players for a more serious first-time rule violation. When the referee observes an infraction, they will whistle, stop time and call for the offending player to exit the court. The timekeeper will declare when they can re-enter the game. The resulting game play will be 3 on 2 for a full 30 seconds unless the innocent team scores during the power play. At this time, the penalized player may re-enter the court.Two minute penalty: This is reserved for striking (see below), excessive force or reckless behavior that draws blood or otherwise results in serious injury. The penalized player will remain off the court for the full two minutes, unless the innocent team scores during the power play. After the innocent team scores during a power play, the penalized player may re-enter the court.IMPORTANT: A delayed penalty can be called. If the innocent team has possession, the referee will blow the whistle when the opposing team gets the ball. The penalized player will then be instructed to exit the court. The ball will be turned over to the innocent team. Each team will return to their side and play will resume. A goal by the innocent team will end the penalty. The penalized player may then return to the court.Ejection: This is penalty is reserved for fighting and acutely reckless or willfully dangerous play that either results in or is deemed as having the potential to cause serious physical harm. The penalized player will be removed from the game. The game will continue as 3 on 2 until the end of regulation time.
Infractions that will result in a ball turnover:Tossing the ball out of the court - This is a delay of game penalty. If the ball is shot and deflects off a mallet or other surface, the ball will simply be placed on the court at the point of exit and play will resume with no ball turnover.Ball-jointing in the offensive zone - Ball jointing is allowed ONLY in the player's defensive zone. Scooping the ball, throwing the ball, doing 180-degree-through-the-bottom-bracket-quadruple-backflip-do-the-damn-trick etc. is permitted. Damn.Infractions that can result in a Warning, 30-second or Two-minute penalty:Hooking or holding- Hooking is defined as using a mallet to restrain a bike or player. Holding is grabbing a player, their clothing or their bike with your hand or elbow, a.k.a "chicken winging."Cheap shot- Checking, hitting or pushing someone in the back. Physical blows about the neck or head, any punching or kicking will also be penalized as a "cheap shot."Striking - A hard strike against someone's mallet may be called as "striking." You can defensively hook another player's mallet, lift it or hold it down with yours, but striking will be called.Mallet throwing.Tournament Format:Two 48 team Swiss Rounds: Rounds will be re-organized after the first day. Teams can expect five matches on Friday and Saturday, respectively.32 teams will move into the double elimination round on Sunday.Swiss-round games will last 12 minutes. Games will also end when one team scores 5 goals.Elimination games will be 15 minutes, they will not end if a team scores 5 goals. If the score is tied at the end of 15 minutes, the game will go to sudden death. Games will get longer for the 4th, 3rd, and final games.Notes:-These rules were developed by North American Hardcourt and the Madison Bike Polo Club for the NAHBPC 2010.-We decided not to allow wrist shots. Even though ESPI5 allowed them and it did not drastically change the game we felt it was in our best interest to let more regional tournaments experiment with it before legalizing them for NAHBPC.- We are not going to penalize obstruction. This rule was too hard to enforce at ESPI5 both because of confusion by the refs and players. While it is effective at opening up the game and we can see its usefulness in the future we did not implement this rule during this tournament.- Penalties are used to enforce the rules. Having experimented with yellow cards and penalties we decided that penalties are a more effective way to enforce our rule base. We plan to give verbal warnings to players who infract on the rules and then use the penalties for the next infraction. We have shortened the penalties to 30 secs so that teams are able to get one goal scoring opportunity during a penalty.We are open to criticism but please be thoughtful and explain your rational.
What's the penalty for putting someone in a headlock after you ride your bike into a brick wall and snap your frame in half?
Trent, can you make all the StL players Chiefs jerseys? Then we go to Jonny Mars and get a bunch of black wigs and horn rimmed glasses...
Any 4th of July Polo or Polo parties?
I'll be in town and down to polo and party.Just saying.
i think lee and chovi and out of town. im down to play. i think patrick is out as well.
down to party as well. ben, did katie get her kilo tt yet?
Nope. ETA is Tuesday now.
I will continue my training all weekend. FYI... 5 lb dumbbell affixed to a #8 Rebar is the ultimate training machine.
That would never have been possible without my two teammates. I was proud to play with Francis and Evan, and I was proud to represent St. Louis Bike Polo.
wheeee! well said BEEF. aint nothin' free in dis land! dem wheels was won wit da blood sweat n' tears of STL bike polo. represented by The Dignified Gentlemen.to anyone who isnt busy floating down a river sunday. i'll see you at polo.
I don't leave town till July 9 or 10, and I got the brakes on my Giant Attraction fixed. I would definitely be up for polo on Sunday. -Patrick
cool, looks like maybe some polo on sunday. who can play?-toph-ben-nick-patrick... can we get a few more?
with the Giant Attraction fixed, I could bring the extra polo bike if anyone, like Alex, needs it. -Patrick
alex here, I will show up sunday.. patrick thanks for the offer, i'll definitely take you up on it for tomorrow. patrick, if it works out, can you send me a text pre polo tomorrow with the details at 31 four four eight six 97 86? smooov..
evan. i dont know if your playing sunday or not. if so, could you bring up that green tire? P.S. so far we got five.
yes! thats six! lindenwood. 2pm.
with Lucky and Alex we have six. Polo at Lindenwood, say about 2PM? -Patrick
oops, I wrote that same time as Toph, see y'all at Lindenwood then. -Patrick
its okay patrick. see you at polo. dont forget to bring your fine selection of wierd beers.
Nevermind, 'm going swimming with my best girl instead. Sorry fellas.
Nevermind, I'm going swimming with my best girl. Sorry fellas.
Hey all you St Louisans who are going to the NAs in two short weeks: I just got a letter from the organizer asking us to follow up with registration. Are all of you are are teams or on teams signed up and paid? King Shin Beef?Trent w/CoMO MKENick w/CoMOEvan w/??Anyone else?Evan, check the hookups for NAHCBPCs thread on .ca There are lots of people looking for a team!
40 spots open. reg. deadline is friday(this friday dudes). $30 person. i hope to the polo gods above that king shin beef is registered. if not. our hopes of STL champions will be rapidly depleating. More importantly. jake please make sure you are 100%. im not doubting your recovery, i just know you'll be playing hard.PS its the very last thread on .ca
I registered King Shin Beef weeks ago. I also made the $90 payment via PayPal seconds after submitting our registration.
STL doesn't register "fake teams." Tell Jonny where to stick that email attitude.
...unfortunately he just happens to be the madison rep.- its nice outside. its not raining. does anyone feel like playing tonight?
I'm all registered and good to go. I'm playing with Mo and Jasmine from Austin. Any further developments on Mr. Loader?
Kurt should be ready for the trip mechanically speaking. I am going for a test run this weekend to make sure everything is ready to go. Figuring out seating may be another issue altogether. I think we may have in the vicinity of 10 people going. If I can fit two couches side by side it won't be an issue.-Trent
Holy shit the STL party van is in the mix?!?! someone please bring fireworksAnd where are you guys staying? We're broke so going for a camping/squating mix with our friends from ATX...
Kurt Loader, while not incapable of partying, is not the actual PARTY VAN. St Louis has an abundance of WHITE VANS.
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